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We are talking about one madman here.

The people that came after him may not have been mad, just devout followers inspired by his scriptures. Madness in the sense that he was most probably a very good storyteller. And what you've said doesn't really classify as evidence that the bible wasn't conceived by a madman.

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Exactly what about it do you think was conceived by a madman? The histories? The poetics? The prophecies? The mythologies? What?

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Let yourself be enchanted,
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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 7:22 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Again: just as you are not very likely to believe that God exists because no proof exists that satisfies you, I am not likely to believe that the Bible was written by a handful of lunatics, not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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 What evidence is it that "points to the contrary"?

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None of that disproves that the bible was written by a drug addict or a crazy guy.

The oldest manuscripts we have, knowledge of the time period in which they were written (coming from historical evidence and literary styles), etc. Again, it's something that anyone who's studied Biblical history even basically will recognize.

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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Same could be said about god itself.
There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.
To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.
The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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Same could be said about god itself.
There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.
To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.
The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 9:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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 Same could be said about god itself.  
 There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.  
 To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.  
 The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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Prove it. Give some links or qoutes from respectable scholars.

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Quote: from King kong at 1:58 pm on July 5, 2008

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leviticus is outdated

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Correction.
The Bible is outdated.

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 2:00 pm on July 5, 2008

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Quote: from King kong at 1:58 pm on July 5, 2008

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leviticus is outdated

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 Correction.  
 The Bible is outdated.

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...And yet it still works for m8illions of people.
who would'v thought?

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Hey, you're just a little off. It is over 2 billion, not just the millions. But the majority of them are "half Christians" (meaning they are lazy in their faith) or just ignore or don't practice the contradictions that they notice.

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Why would you use a condom? You said this in another topic, "the laughable, child making,placebos known as condoms". Apparently you don't hold much faith in them.
Thoes were quotes from off of the internet.
I will only use condoms after I get married becaus if they fail then the resulting babies will be lagitimate.
[I'm not alowed to have sex befor marige]

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Babies are only illigitimate if you have them with somebody else when you are married, not if you have one prior to marriage.

So, You're a grown adult with free will and "you aren't allowed to have sex before marriage" ?

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:15 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 9:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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  Same could be said about god itself.
  There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.
  To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.
  The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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 Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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Prove it. Give some links or qoutes from respectable scholars.

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I will when you do. At the moment, I don't have any on hand, but if you expect me to put the effort into dragging up quotes to prove what's essentially common knowledge, you should do the same.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 10:21 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:15 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 9:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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  Same could be said about god itself.    
  There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.    
  To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.    
  The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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  Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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 Prove it. Give some links or quotes from respectable scholars.

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I will when you do. At the moment, I don't have any on hand, but if you expect me to put the effort into dragging up quotes to prove what's essentially common knowledge, you should do the same.

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You denied that the other guy was wrong. you should back up your unfounded claims. I am neutral either way, it's just that you seem to have trouble with posting evidence supporting your claims.

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 9:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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 Same could be said about god itself.  
 There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.  
 To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.  
 The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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Well...forget mad...how about deluded?

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:44 pm on July 8, 2008

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 10:21 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:15 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 9:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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   Same could be said about god itself.
   There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.
   To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.
   The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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  Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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  Prove it. Give some links or quotes from respectable scholars.

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 I will when you do. At the moment, I don't have any on hand, but if you expect me to put the effort into dragging up quotes to prove what's essentially common knowledge, you should do the same.

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You denied that the other guy was wrong. you should back up your unfounded claims. I am neutral either way, it's just that you seem to have trouble with posting evidence supporting your claims.

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I didn't make the positive claim in the first place.

But if we're going to play this game: prove to me that God doesn't exist.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 4:54 pm on July 8, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:44 pm on July 8, 2008

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 10:21 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:15 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from TooImaginativeTeen at 9:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:56 pm on July 7, 2008

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not only because there is no evidence for such a thing, but also because all of the evidence that exists points to the contrary.

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    Same could be said about god itself.      
    There's no evidence for such a thing, and the evidence seems to point to the contrary of the positive position.      
    To show the needlessness of a god points to the very likely event that it does not exist, or on top of that, that it cares for us.      
    The only reason you have faith in it is because you were taught to have faith in a book whose origins make faith pretty unreasonable to anyone with rational and humble common sense.

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   Entirely different situations; there is no real evidence either way for the existence of any deity, but there is concrete evidence that the writing of the Bible was neither originated nor perpetuated by a mad man or many mad men.

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  Prove it. Give some links or quotes from respectable scholars.

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  I will when you do. At the moment, I don't have any on hand, but if you expect me to put the effort into dragging up quotes to prove what's essentially common knowledge, you should do the same.

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 You denied that the other guy was wrong. you should back up your unfounded claims. I am neutral either way, it's just that you seem to have trouble with posting evidence supporting your claims.

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I didn't make the positive claim in the first place.

But if we're going to play this game: prove to me that God doesn't exist.

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Put up some support for your claims. The existence of god has nothing to do with the current discussion.

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I made it rain on my hoes.Then god smote me for trying to play god.