The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

So, You're a grown adult with free will and "you aren't allowed to have sex before marriage" ?"
Not acording to the religion I beleve in.


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Soon the power will be mine!

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Sure it does.

The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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I see that the other party needs to substantiate their claim as opposed to you, but I still fail to see how the origins of the bible and the existence of god are connected in this discussion.

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I made it rain on my hoes.Then god smote me for trying to play god.

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" Babies are only illigitimate if you have them with somebody else when you are married, not if you have one prior to marriage.

So, You're a grown adult with free will and "you aren't allowed to have sex before marriage" ?"
Not acording to the religion I beleve in.

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Hmmm. I guess god is just your big nanny in the sky.

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I made it rain on my hoes.Then god smote me for trying to play god.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:04 pm on July 8, 2008

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Sure it does.  

 The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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I see that the other party needs to substantiate their claim as opposed to you, but I still fail to see how the origins of the bible and the existence of god are connected in this discussion.

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I was using the example of "prove that God doesn't exist" to illustrate my point that the person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. Just as it's not on you to prove that God doesn't exist, it's not on me to prove that the Bible wasn't written by a mad man or a group of mad men. It's the job of the person making the positive claim to provide the proof of that claim.

That said, I really would love to see something from any reputable scholar that suggests that the Bible is the work of a mad man or a group of mad men.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 1:30 am on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:04 pm on July 8, 2008

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Sure it does.

  The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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 I see that the other party needs to substantiate their claim as opposed to you, but I still fail to see how the origins of the bible and the existence of god are connected in this discussion.

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I was using the example of "prove that God doesn't exist" to illustrate my point that the person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. Just as it's not on you to prove that God doesn't exist, it's not on me to prove that the Bible wasn't written by a mad man or a group of mad men. It's the job of the person making the positive claim to provide the proof of that claim.

That said, I really would love to see something from any reputable scholar that suggests that the Bible is the work of a mad man or a group of mad men.

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Lol I think it would depend on what you mean by mad.

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 1:30 am on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:04 pm on July 8, 2008

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Sure it does.

  The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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 I see that the other party needs to substantiate their claim as opposed to you, but I still fail to see how the origins of the bible and the existence of god are connected in this discussion.

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I was using the example of "prove that God doesn't exist" to illustrate my point that the person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. Just as it's not on you to prove that God doesn't exist, it's not on me to prove that the Bible wasn't written by a mad man or a group of mad men. It's the job of the person making the positive claim to provide the proof of that claim.

That said, I really would love to see something from any reputable scholar that suggests that the Bible is the work of a mad man or a group of mad men.

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Saying god doesn't exist is a negative claim. So you would need to provide proof that he does exist, not me providing proof of the contrary.

I'm not supporting or denying the claim, so look elsewhere for that.

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I made it rain on my hoes.Then god smote me for trying to play god.

 So, You're a grown adult with free will and "you aren't allowed to have sex before marriage" ?"  
 Not acording to the religion I beleve in.  
 

Hmmm. I guess god is just your big nanny in the sky.
God [names begin with capital letters] Is my LORD.
A way bigger version of a nanny.


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Soon the power will be mine!

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:25 am on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 1:30 am on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:04 pm on July 8, 2008

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Sure it does.    

  The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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  I see that the other party needs to substantiate their claim as opposed to you, but I still fail to see how the origins of the bible and the existence of god are connected in this discussion.

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 I was using the example of "prove that God doesn't exist" to illustrate my point that the person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. Just as it's not on you to prove that God doesn't exist, it's not on me to prove that the Bible wasn't written by a mad man or a group of mad men. It's the job of the person making the positive claim to provide the proof of that claim.  

 That said, I really would love to see something from any reputable scholar that suggests that the Bible is the work of a mad man or a group of mad men.

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Saying god doesn't exist is a negative claim. So you would need to provide proof that he does exist, not me providing proof of the contrary.  

I'm not supporting or denying the claim, so look elsewhere for that.

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I don't think you're quite comprehending the analogy.

Telling me to prove that mad men didn't write the Bible is akin to me telling you to prove that God doesn't exist. Comprende?

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 8:51 pm on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:25 am on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 1:30 am on July 9, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:04 pm on July 8, 2008

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Sure it does.

   The first person in this thread to talk about the Bible being written by a mad man or many mad men made the positive claim; therefore, the burden of proof rests on his shoulders. If you disagree, then prove that God doesn't exist. Same basic debate principle.

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  I see that the other party needs to substantiate their claim as opposed to you, but I still fail to see how the origins of the bible and the existence of god are connected in this discussion.

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  I was using the example of "prove that God doesn't exist" to illustrate my point that the person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. Just as it's not on you to prove that God doesn't exist, it's not on me to prove that the Bible wasn't written by a mad man or a group of mad men. It's the job of the person making the positive claim to provide the proof of that claim.

  That said, I really would love to see something from any reputable scholar that suggests that the Bible is the work of a mad man or a group of mad men.

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 Saying god doesn't exist is a negative claim. So you would need to provide proof that he does exist, not me providing proof of the contrary.

 I'm not supporting or denying the claim, so look elsewhere for that.

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I don't think you're quite comprehending the analogy.

Telling me to prove that mad men didn't write the Bible is akin to me telling you to prove that God doesn't exist. Comprende?

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Yes, entiendo.

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  So, You're a grown adult with free will and "you aren't allowed to have sex before marriage" ?"
  Not acording to the religion I beleve in.
   

 Hmmm. I guess god is just your big nanny in the sky.
 God [names begin with capital letters] Is my LORD.
A way bigger version of a nanny.

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Ah, so you don't want Democracy, you want to revert to the broken feudal system with  god as a lord?

So, how much is this nanny? Does she service in Southern California?

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I made it rain on my hoes.Then god smote me for trying to play god.

So, how much is this nanny? Does she service in Southern California?

The god of the bible that Abraham worshiped is my god and we call him God.
I work for him because the bible says that he will help me have a better life.
So yes he services  everywhere.

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Soon the power will be mine!

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" Ah, so you don't want Democracy, you want to revert to the broken feudal system with [a] god as a lord?

So, how much is this nanny? Does she service in Southern California?  

The god of the bible that Abraham worshiped is my god and we call him God.
I work for him because the bible says that he will help me have a better life.
So yes he services everywhere.

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Does he watch toddlers? Cause my neighbors want to go on a second honeymoon, but they want a nanny to come and watch them, tell them what to do, stuff like that.

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I made it rain on my hoes.Then god smote me for trying to play god.

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What is love?
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more

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Saying god doesn't exist is a negative claim. So you would need to provide proof that he does exist, not me providing proof of the contrary.  

I'm not supporting or denying the claim, so look elsewhere for that.

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