Lets bring back the support, proposed LW changes. -- LiveWire Teen Forums

This place had gone so far down the shit tubes that it will never be a place of support again. I will say that there are a few (read: 1 or 2) people that offer good support, but they should be doing it elsewhere. Here is why:

1. David He doesn't give a shit about this place anymore and what it originally stood for. He only wants the membership to increase and does not care about the quality of things that are talked about here. He can't be bothered to read the posts or respond to them. He can't be bothered to read emails and respond to them. And don't you dare give me that shit about he's too busy to do so. If he's to fucking busy then maybe he should do what Reid did: leave and turn the controls over to someone who can efficiently and effectively run this site. Someone who isn't a fucktard and wants to be succesful for support, and not a haven for idiots to troll all day long.

2. eHelp This system is a fucking joke. In case any of you didn't know, the first "e" in eHelp stands for "emergency", and 99.9% of those requests are not emergency based. I am so sick and tired of seeing eHelp requests like "I can't stop masturbating" or "I broke a nail, what do I do?!?". Either get rid of the system or change the name of it.

3. The Serious Form This used to be a good forum when we had it originally, but now it's just another joke like the rest of the forums. David claims that "superfluous topics will be removed" but that ain't the case. Most of the Moderators are too stupid to know what that word means, and those topics aren't being removed.

4. The CBL Probably the biggest joke on the site. This account and the elite group Committee For A Better LiveWire is a complete waste. The group is made-up of a handful of members who think they want to get LiveWire back to where it was support wise, but all they want to do is bribe people into creating supportive replies in order to win some fucking contest. Let me tell you, if you have to bribe people into being supportive then you're defeating your whole purpose. This group was formed to try and get David to make meaningful changes, but they haven't done shit in the last 5 months, except for bribing people into being supportive.

5. The Anonymous Feature What a fucking joke. This feature is abused so many times that we all might as well change our names to "Anymous". This feature need to be utilized in only the support forums and nowhere else. Nobody, absolutely NOBODY needs to be posting anonymously in the Food Forum or the DTRM Forum or the Music Forum. That is a crock of shit, people.

6. The Moderators Most of the time they don't do their jobs, so there is no sense in giving them more responsibility. They don't do anything about the abuse of the anonymous feature, they don't do anything about the superfluous topics in the Serious Forum, they don't do anything about the "IDK" replies. Granted their response will be "then report it", but even if we do they still don't do anything. They DON'T ENFORCE THE GUIDELINES. Trust me, I know it sucks when they do and then some stupid, idiotic fucktard of a member complains when their topic was deleted because a Moderator was enforcing the guidelines and doing their job, but they need to do a better job of it.

7. ETC Pretty much this site needs an overhaul from the ground up, including the Administration, the Moderators, the Guidelines, the members, the Forums and the features. The reason I joined this site and have donated several hundred dollars over the years is because it used to be an excellent site for support. Sure you had the occassional troll like Anthem, but they were far and few between. This was also when there were only 5,000 - 6,000 members. Now that there are over 167,000 (which is an average increase of 33,000 members per year) there are too many trolls, too many people with multiple accounts designed just to spam the forums and it just makes for a lousy site, and I refuse to be a financial contributor anymore. David needs to purge the member list of banned accounts, multiple accounts and abandoned accounts, but he doesn't want to because he thinks having a large number of accounts means a successful site. Well it doesn't, David. It just means that you're running a site that's worthless, and just like most of the other teen sites on the internet.

Now, let's talk about the proposed changes.

1. Having a separate tab for support forums would indeed make it easier to find the support forums, but that's about it. It's not going to change the support offered because it's the same people offering the support. As I said earlier, you cannot force people to give support and if you did, it wouldn't be effective. I know for a fact that one of the reasons I no longer offer support for the most part is the fact that you can no longer tell who seriously needs support and who is being a jerk. Every once in a while I will see a post from someone who you can tell just by reading the post and their grammar and spelling, that they are serious. But lately there have been a lot of posts like "I was naked on my couch masturbating when my dad came downstairs and saw me, then stuck his penis inside me. wat shud i do?", and we know they're just trolling the support forums. And it's a vicious cycle because these trolls are here, they're abusing the anonymous feature and the Moderators don't do anything about it.

2. Having the SL's assigned to a Moderator? What a fucking joke. They can't do their jobs as it is, so why give them more responsibility? The Moderators are not gods (even though some of them think they are), but if they can't handle what's on their plates right now, giving them more is not the answer. In addition, SL's are supposed to be people who are mature enough, intelligent enough and thoughtful enough in order to give support on their own, without having to be babysat by someone with a blue name. And why should SL's be reaching the standard of a Moderator? Each Moderator is a different person and has different standards, which is why a SL should reaching the standards of a SL.

3. Not allowing points in the DTRM forum or splitting it up is also a joke. If you don't allow points, then people will simply continue to post spam in other forums to get their points. (Note that I said "continue" and not "move to other forums"). And what is the point in splitting it up? David has said repeatedly that that is the sole reason as to why he created the DTRM forum, was a place to hold all the spam threads. Splitting it up is not going to stop the spam, it's just going to double it. People wouldn't be getting points if they weren't allowed to post replies like "IDK", "Google it", "lol", "wut?" etc. If the Moderators focused more on doing their jobs when they're online and/or if there was a characater minimum to post, then that might help to eliminate spam.

Like I said, you cannot force people to be supportive. It's especially hard to be supportive when the Administration doesn't care, when the Moderators don't care and when the members don't care. Everyone has turned this place into another trashy teen site and doing one or two things is not going to change it. It will take a major overhaul of a lot of things to correct the problem, but when David doesn't care it's not going to happen. And I haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what all is really wrong with this site.

(waits for the typical responses)

Post edited at 7:59 am on July 17, 2008 by wmudude

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