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Should the perpetrator be the victim?
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Say a senior basketball player goes out and gets drunk one night, and happens to be passing this old man's house.  The teen knows he could get some money from him, so he breaks in to try and steal a few things.  The old man is awake, and the teen decides to try and knock him out, but the old man has a gun and shoots him in the leg.  After a month of recovery, the young senior sues the old man for taking away his future basketball career.  Is this right?  Stuff like this is actually happening every day, especially in the United States.  What the hell is wrong with this world today?

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That's fucking retarded! HE TRIED TO STEAL FROM AN OLD MAN AND HE WAS DRUNK!!!
There's no fucking way he could even try and file charges for doing 3 illegal things and the elderly man defends himself!

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Quote: from necronomicon servant at 6:44 pm on June 28, 2009

That's fucking retarded! HE TRIED TO STEAL FROM AN OLD MAN AND HE WAS DRUNK!!!
There's no fucking way he could even try and file charges for doing 3 illegal things and the elderly man defends himself!


With the right lawyer and some money, you can sue anyone for anything.  And this is a true story, and there are many, many more like it.

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Someone stealing from you does not mean you have the right to shoot them.

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Quote: from aleiram51 at 4:51 pm on June 28, 2009

Someone stealing from you does not mean you have the right to shoot them.

"Good afternoon, young sir. Please, write down your name and address as you make off with my belongings. I am restricted by law from crippling you."

By premeditating and committing the act of robbery, that should be interpreted as the signing away of your rights.


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Quote: from Jasonzlpa at 12:46 am on June 29, 2009

Quote: from necronomicon servant at 6:44 pm on June 28, 2009

That's fucking retarded! HE TRIED TO STEAL FROM AN OLD MAN AND HE WAS DRUNK!!!  
 There's no fucking way he could even try and file charges for doing 3 illegal things and the elderly man defends himself!

 
With the right lawyer and some money, you can sue anyone for anything. And this is a true story, and there are many, many more like it.



Do not confuse "sueing" someone with actually winning a case.

It is, in fact a truism that you can "sue for anything", however, winning the case is a completly different matter.

And I should think that, should the facts be as you presented them here, No judge in his right mind would find in favour of the plantiff.



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Move to Texas if you dont like it.

Here as long as the perp is facing you, you have the right to shoot him.

And if he is not facing you, shoot him in the leg, then when he falls, turn him over and shoot him again.




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it shouldnt happen, but it does. I hate it. its fucked up, and the kid should be shot again for the sheer fact that he's a pompous little ass.

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Quote: from Jasonzlpa at 4:40 pm on June 28, 2009

Say a senior basketball player goes out and gets drunk one night, and happens to be passing this old man's house. The teen knows he could get some money from him, so he breaks in to try and steal a few things. The old man is awake, and the teen decides to try and knock him out, but the old man has a gun and shoots him in the leg. After a month of recovery, the young senior sues the old man for taking away his future basketball career. Is this right? Stuff like this is actually happening every day, especially in the United States. What the hell is wrong with this world today?

Of course it isn't right.  The old man should have shot to kill.


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You can sue for anything. You likely wont win though.

Unless the lawyer can show that the old man wasn't defending himself, the kid is likely going to be the one in trouble.

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I read somewhere that if someone broke into your house uninvited, you could kill him and wouldn't be held liable.

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I read somewhere that if someone broke into your house uninvited, you could kill him and wouldn't be held liable.

Why would you be held liable? If someone breaks into your house you can only assume that they are hostile and wish to harm you and thus you have the right to defend yourself.

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Quote: from aleiram51 at 4:51 pm on June 28, 2009

Someone stealing from you does not mean you have the right to shoot them.

Go rob a police station and see if they feel the same way

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Quote: from medjai at 2:32 am on Dec. 31, 2009

Quote: from aleiram51 at 4:51 pm on June 28, 2009

Someone stealing from you does not mean you have the right to shoot them.

Go rob a police station and see if they feel the same way


That's for damned sure.  

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Having the money to sue is also an issue though. If you have enough money to fling lawsuits left and right you've got a certain amount of power because not everyone can afford to have a good lawyer. Even if they lose they don't care, they forced you to spend money defending yourself. It's just a new way to bully people.

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