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Tyranny of the Republicrat party
Replies: 16Last Post Sep. 8 10:54pm by Elm
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The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.

-James 'Publius' Madison in Federalist #47

How is it that, in a country made up of so many people, that nearly all opinions come to match two parties that aren't really that different?  

Virtually the entirety of both houses of Congress are in the hands of Republicans and Democrats.  The executive branch has been in their complete control for decades.  In fact, Millard Fillmore was the last none Republican/Democrat in office.  In 1853.  That means that unless one of the Supreme Court Justices was in before 1853, then they've all been appointed and approved by Republicrats.

This is a country where people are afraid to vote for anything out of the party because they know they're throwing away their vote.  I'm looking at you, Nader.  

It's such a brilliant system of oppression, they don't need storm-troopers walking the streets to control the public.  All they need is smiling face telling them they have a choice... as long as it's red or blue.



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I thought democrats were more tyranical. There the ones who stormed Waco. Passed the Brady bill.

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Well written.
And the bad news is...they have so much power , that they can literally ENSLAVE all americans any moment they want.
Resistance is futile, and if the normal citizen thinks he will beat the government....make him think again.
Normal people have no chance against the government.



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This is exactly what I've been fucking saying for ages. And with 90+% of people voting stupidly, it's basically 'who can fool sheep the best', not 'who has the best plan for this country'. The sick thing is that no one who is up front and honest will get through. So although there is a slight chance that a politician could have good plans but is being political purely to get elected, it's slim, and we can't know. Also, congress presents a big barrier to this scenario, as they're similarly 'elected' by idiots.

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You'd think a large country with a federal system would end up like Germany- crowded with dozens of political parties that people might just vote for (proportional representation). But no, something remarkably dissimilar.

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Quote: from latin muscle at 8:52 pm on Sep. 6, 2008

Well written.  
And the bad news is...they have so much power , that they can literally ENSLAVE all americans any moment they want.  
Resistance is futile, and if the normal citizen thinks he will beat the government....make him think again.  
Normal people have no chance against the government.  


No they can't. People are blind to slight encroachment on their freedoms and subtle shit, but they'll never accept direct autocracy unless there's something like a nuclear attack.

Post edited at 5:57 pm on Sep. 6, 2008 by prisoner of hss

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Or we could choose to be like the occult of Jehovah's Witnesses and choose not to vote at all.

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They don't need to enslave us, they already have us working for them 50% of the time as long as people believe they are free they don't need to enslave us - we put the shackles on willingly.

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Quote: from MakingaDifference001 at 8:56 pm on Sep. 6, 2008

Or we could choose to be like the occult of Jehovah's Witnesses and choose not to vote at all.

When you have one vote and one choice, your vote doesn't matter.

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Agreed.

third party candidates don't even run with the intention of winning anymore, they just hope to get enough support to get their message out there and somehow influence the American public to push the major parties in that direction.  Even if they did, and if the public fought, the republicrats wouldn't have to change anything and people would still vote for them.


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Perot came pretty close to upsetting the Republicrat monopoly in 1992.

Then there are those who understand that the only way to function is to fight from within the monopoly, such as Dr. Paul or Kinky.

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I think this country is in the decline. Every great empire has its greatness ruined by an innefective leader and a complacent populous.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:17 am on Sep. 7, 2008

Perot came pretty close to upsetting the Republicrat monopoly in 1992.

Then there are those who understand that the only way to function is to fight from within the monopoly, such as Dr. Paul or Kinky.


I agree, but I think one of his mistakes was dropping out and then jumping back in.  If he had kept the course, that election might have looked quite different.

Madison, like Jefferson, were from a different school of thought - sadly one that is non-existent today.

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You all seem to forget that third parties exist. It's just that hardly anyone votes for them, because they're afraid of "throwing away their vote".

I'm reminded of this part from "So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish"...



After a long, heart-stopping moment of internal crashes and grumbles of rending machinery, there marched from it, down the ramp, an immense silver robot, a hundred feet tall.

It held up a hand.

"I come in peace,'' it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard.''
Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur...

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see ...''
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?''
"No,'' said Ford, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.''

"Odd,'' said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy.''

"I did,'' said Ford. "It is.''
"So,'' said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?''

"It honestly doesn't occur to them,'' said Ford.  "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.''
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?''

"Oh yes,'' said Ford with a shrug, "of course.''
"But,'' said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?''
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard,'' said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?''
"What?''

"I said,'' said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?''
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards.''  Ford shrugged again.

"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them,'' he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it.''
"But that's terrible,'' said Arthur.

"Listen, bud,'' said Ford, "if I had one Altairan dollar for every time I heard one bit of the Universe look at another bit of the Universe and say 'That's terrible' I wouldn't be sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin. But I haven't and I am...''


Post edited at 8:38 pm on Sep. 7, 2008 by holysaiyan1

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No, we understand that there are third parties, and we are just angry and people have the mentality that somehow voting for the person with ideas closest to theirs is a 'waste of a vote'.

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