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Quote: from Springs at 10:45 pm on Oct. 13, 2008

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havent we had a talk about this?

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*sigh* fine... u ruin my fun

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go have fun somewhere else in the forum

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He's the man is what they must say
what way could i give up the up way
when i show love to the sky
when you give up it's like saying eff it and die

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 10:46 pm on Oct. 13, 2008

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Quote: from Springs at 10:45 pm on Oct. 13, 2008

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havent we had a talk about this?

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 *sigh* fine... u ruin my fun

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i just dont like seeing retread topics

go have fun somewhere else in the forum

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Why would you be proud of your race unless you felt it was superior?

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When a child plays a good game of baseball, let's say, do you think his parents are proud of him? Probably. Does he have to be the best kid on the field? No, he doesn't.

Post edited at 3:56 pm on Oct. 14, 2008 by kidd rune

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"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

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Thanks to them, white is now the only ethnicity where pride is a hate crime.

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The KKK also hates white Catholics in case you don't know.

Post edited at 6:56 pm on Oct. 14, 2008 by jakelong

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Pride is NOT a hate crime.

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I beg to differ.  While you're techincally correct and while "hate crime" might be exaggurating things slightly, society at large does not follow suit with that sentiment.  A white person proclaiming pride in their race stands a far greater chance of being accused of racism than a minority proclaiming pride in their race, which is largely due to white supremacy being widely believed and expressed in the past.  You have to be beyond obtuse to disagree with this.

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society at large does not follow suit with that sentiment. A white person proclaiming pride in their race stands a far greater chance of being accused of racism than a minority proclaiming pride in their race, which is largely due to white supremacy being widely believed and expressed in the past.

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"Being accused of racism" =/= "hate crime"

stop abusing the term to make a point. You have to be pretty dishonest to think that accusing someone of racism is the same as accusing him of a hate crime.

Hate crime is something pretty serious and pretty specific. Using it to mean whatever you want so you can make a point don't make it true.

Post edited at 11:39 pm on Oct. 14, 2008 by jakelong

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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stop abusing the term to make a point. You have to be pretty dishonest to think that accusing someone of racism is the same as accusing him of a hate crime.

Hate crime is something pretty serious and pretty specific. Using it to mean whatever you want so you can make a point don't make it true.

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Hey Jake, next time please quote my full post.

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I beg to differ.  While you're techincally correct and while "hate crime" might be exaggurating things slightly, society at large does not follow suit with that sentiment.  A white person proclaiming pride in their race stands a far greater chance of being accused of racism than a minority proclaiming pride in their race, which is largely due to white supremacy being widely believed and expressed in the past.  You have to be beyond obtuse to disagree with this.

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Its not slight dude. Hate crime is pretty serious. I got his point. But if he wants ppl to take his point seriously he shouldn't abuse the words. Thats all.

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Either way, I acknowledged it.  And it still doesn't take the TheLastMagister's main point away.

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:44 pm on Oct. 14, 2008

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Its not slight dude. Hate crime is pretty serious. I got his point. But if he wants ppl to take his point seriously he shouldn't abuse the words. Thats all.

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Either way, I acknowledged it. And it still doesn't take the TheLastMagister's main point away.

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The thing is that the KKK is NOT the only org that gives a bad rap to "white pride". All the WS and neo-nazis do that too. Google "white pride"and you get all kinds of neo-nazi WS/WN links. And yeah the nazis and some of the other groups DID  kill nonwhites because of race.

Another thing is white is NOT an ethncity.

Any way when I see someone who is white pride and does NOT spew retarded shit against nonwhites to try to make them look inferior or does NOT spew pro-Hilter, anti-Jewish propaganda. then I'll think different about him.

Note that I feel the exact same way against black nationalists and the other race nationalist.

And one last ting. the reason ppl sometimes say "black pride" and don't get labeled racist right off the bat is because TRADITONALLY blacks were taught to be ashamed and feel inferior because of their race. so the blcak pride thing came from trying to help ppl overcome the shame and the feeling of being inferior in a society that looked down on them.

You  think that that whole thing is the in the past but not really. The proof is how ppl try to say that blacks have lower IQs and have not contributed to society and can't invent things and try to say that there CANT be black pride. Meanwhile nobody can really make whites ashamed of anything except racism and slavery and colonization. But even there most nonwhites even might defend them


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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

Blacks, asians and latinos all have a distinct culture and background in America whereas "white" just means "not like those dirty other people".

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The difference is, of course, the fact that "white" isn't a culture.

Blacks, asians and latinos all have a distinct culture and background in America whereas "white" just means "not like those dirty other people".

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